What About Suffering?–Romans 8:1-18

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Romans 8:1-18

There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

Suffering In This Life

The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him. (v. 17)

I find it so interesting that Paul makes this provisional statement in verse 17: We’re heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him. [emphasis mine]

That verse, and the next one, remind me of a conversation I had a week ago. I asked a forty-something family member what his belief was about the existence of God and about Jesus and about going to church. I was curious because I happen to know this family member had a particularly difficult childhood, and yet, somehow, he’s a leader among our extended family. He’s always helping other family members. He even provided one of our family with a place to live for free. On top of that, his career is one of service to the community. I mean, this guy is just generally a salt-of-the-earth human being. And all this after a miserable childhood.

In answer, he shared with me a video of a man telling this story:

In a mother’s womb with two babies, one turns to the other and says, “Do you believe in life after delivery?”

The other replies, “Why of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we’re here to prepare ourselves for what will be later.”

“Nonsense,” said the first. There’s no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”

“I don’t know,” said the second. “But there’ll be more light than here. Maybe we’ll walk with our legs and eat with our mouths. Maybe we’ll have other senses we can’t understand now.”

The first goes: “That’s ridiculous. Walking is impossible, and eating with our mouths, that’s absurd. The umbilical cord is what scientifically supplies nutrition and all that we need but it’s far too short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”

The second says, “What if it’s just different than it is here? Maybe we don’t need that physical cord anymore?”

The first goes: “Okay, if there were life after delivery, then tell me, why has no one ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life. And in the after-delivery there’s nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion–it takes us nowhere.”

The second says, “But certainly we’ll meet mother, and she’ll take care of us.”

The first goes: “Mother? You actually believe in mother? If mother exists, where is she now?”

The second goes: “She’s all around us. We are of her. It is in her that we live. Without her this world would not and could not exist.”

The first says, “I don’t see her. It’s only logical that she’s not here.”

To which the second replies: “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you really listen, you can perceive her presence. You can hear her loving voice calling down from above.”

If you’re interested, you can watch that video here: Life After Delivery: story of two babies.

A little later in the conversation, I asked him point blank: But what do you do with suffering? Especially after the life you endured during your childhood.

I thought his answer was so profound. He said, “If eternity is real, than this life is a blink–no–it’s less than a blink.”

That answer fits perfectly with what Paul said in today’s passage:

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. (v. 18)

“Lord, we know that not one of us will make it through this life without suffering. Have mercy on us and give us strength to suffer well in Your sight, the way Jesus suffered well in Your sight. Help us Lord.

“In Jesus name we ask this of You.

“Amen.”

Notes:

Image of Jesus suffering on the cross via ImagineGolf on iStock

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